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$Bill  
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From: "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:22:51 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 6:22 am
Subject: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP
Great first game back for Pau with the only DD.  Starters did pretty good
except for Kobe at 33%.  LO decent off the bench with 25 min, but not a lot
from the rest of the bench again.  108-93 Lakers win by 15.

Game Dbl-figures Leaders:
     Player    Pts  FG% 3P% FT%  RB AS BL ST TO PF EFF
     Pau        24 ( 60/  0/100)/13/ 3/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 3/+33  DD
     Kobe       21 ( 33/  0/ 88)/ 9/ 8/ 1/ 0/ 1/ 3/+23
     Ron        15 ( 46/ 50/100)/ 5/ 3/ 0/ 3/ 1/ 0/+18
     Fish       12 (100/100/  0)/ 2/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 1/ 3/+16
     Lamar      11 ( 57/ 50/ 50)/ 8/ 2/ 0/ 0/ 3/ 1/+14
     Drew       11 ( 42/  0/ 50)/ 8/ 0/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 4/+10

Next game: OCT at LAL: Sun Nov 22 1830 Game 13

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Congrats to mayner for closest predict.

CHI at LAL: Thu Nov 19 19:30:00 2009 (Run at: Thu Nov 19 22:19:28 2009)

   NAME                    POST TIME      LAL   OPP   DIFF     VEC

Actual score:                            108    93    15

Qualified:
   mayner                  18/16:31:02    110    96    14     3.606
   $Bill                   19/19:34:19    105    95    10     3.606
   Lallia                  18/21:22:39    109    98    11     5.099
   Sean S                  19/16:07:01    103    94     9     5.099
   ARW                     19/17:23:32    106    98     8     5.385
   Terraholm               19/15:13:22    108    99     9     6.000
   RMJon23                 19/15:21:03    103    97     6     6.403
   Gary Collard            19/11:03:11    100    91     9     8.246
   frndthdevl              19/16:26:20    111   101    10     8.544
   Ammammata               19/00:08:56    123   108    15    21.213

Average guess:                           107.8  97.7  10.1   4.704

Disqualified:

Current prediction contest standings:

        Later - still some problems.

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Quarterly Laker scoring leaders/notes:

Q1 - Lakers with some sloppy D and poor RBing in Q1 start to get it together at      EOQ to grab a 6 pt lead.  Kobe not playing well again 1-5 and Pau with a
      great 4-5 start.  6 TOs won't get it either.  Pau 10, Drew 5, Lamar 4.
      25-19=+6Q.

Q2 - Shooting drops off and D is both great and sloppy at times - mistakes low.
      CHI is moving the ball well and running the Lakers ragged trying to play D.
      Kobe 11, Fish 5, Pau 4.  28-23=+5Q.

HT - CHI is playing well on both ends giving LA all the can handle, but LA has
      the size up front and if they don't tire should continue in H2 to increase
      the lead.  Pau 14, Kobe 13, Drew/Fish 7, Ron 5.  53-42=+11H.

Q3 - Decent Q, but CHI keeps coming back every time LA tries to open a lead.
      A bit too much fouling instead of playing good D, but shooting better than      Q2.  Lamar 7, Pau 6, Ron/Fish 5, Kobe/Drew 4.  31-25=+6Q (84-67 +17).

Q4 - Worst Q of night for LA, but mostly bench play as they coast to the win.
      Ron/Jordan 5, Kobe/Pau 4.  24-26=-2Q.

Final - Great first game back for Pau with the only DD.  Starters did pretty
         good except for Kobe at 33%.  LO decent off the bench with 25 min, but
        not a lot from the rest of the bench again.  108-93 Lakers win by 15.

Game Dbl-figures Leaders:
     Player    Pts  FG% 3P% FT%  RB AS BL ST TO PF EFF
     Pau        24 ( 60/  0/100)/13/ 3/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 3/+33  DD
     Kobe       21 ( 33/  0/ 88)/ 9/ 8/ 1/ 0/ 1/ 3/+23
     Ron        15 ( 46/ 50/100)/ 5/ 3/ 0/ 3/ 1/ 0/+18
     Fish       12 (100/100/  0)/ 2/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 1/ 3/+16
     Lamar      11 ( 57/ 50/ 50)/ 8/ 2/ 0/ 0/ 3/ 1/+14
     Drew       11 ( 42/  0/ 50)/ 8/ 0/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 4/+10

Team scoring by Q (FG%/FG-AT includes 3P%/3P-AT):
    Lakers              Opponent            Lakers           Opponent
Q  FG-AT 3P-AT FT-AT   FG-AT 3P-AT FT-AT   FG%  3P%  FT%    FG%  3P%  FT%
1  11-22  0-2   3-4     9-24  1-3   0-2    50   0    75     37.5 33.3 0
2  10-24  2-4   6-6     9-20  2-3   3-3    41.6 50   100    45   66.6 100
H  21-46  2-6   9-10   18-44  3-6   3-5    45.7 33.3 90     40.9 50   60
3  11-23  4-8   5-7     9-21  1-2   6-8    47.8 50   71.4   42.8 50   75
A3 32-69  6-14 14-17   27-65  4-8   9-13   46.4 42.9 82.4   41.5 50   69.2
4  10-23  0-5   4-5    11-19  1-7   3-4    43.4 0    80     57.8 14.2 75
F  42-92  6-19 18-22   38-84  5-15 12-17   45.7 31.6 81.8   45.2 33.3 70.6

Team stats by Q (RB includes team RBs):
    Lakers                 Opponent               Diff
Q  OR RB AS TO ST BL PF   OR RB AS TO ST BL PF   OR  RB  AS  TO  ST  BL  PF
1   5 19  6  6  2  0  3    4 10  6  4  5  0  3   +1  +9      +2  -3
2   2 13  5  3  4  2  5    2 12  7  6  1  1  5       +1  -2  -3  +3  +1
H   7 32 11  9  6  2  8    6 22 13 10  6  1  8   +1  +10 -2  -1      +1
3   4 16  5  1  0  1  7    4 12  4  1  1  1  5       +4  +1      -1      +2
A3 11 48 16 10  6  3 15   10 34 17 11  7  2 13   +1  +14 -1  -1  -1  +1  +2
4   3 10  4  2  2  1  2    0 12  7  4  2  0  6   +3  -2  -3  -2      +1  -4
F  14 58 20 12  8  4 17   10 46 24 15  9  2 19   +4  +12 -4  -3  -1  +2  -2

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Box Score from http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2009111913

                                   1     2     3     4   Total
Chicago                          19    23    25    26    93
LA Lakers                        25    28    31    24   108

Chicago
PLAYER         POS  MIN  FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS   +/-  EFF
D. Rose          G 38:02  9-20  0-0   2-2   0  1  6  2  1  0  0  20   -15 +15.0
J. Salmons       G 29:23  7-13  3-5   1-1   0  2  3  1  0  0  5  18    -9 +16.0
J. Noah          C 39:07  6-12  0-0   0-3   5 15  4  4  4  2  4  12   -11 +24.0
L. Deng          F 36:33  3-11  0-2   0-0   0  6  0  2  1  0  2   6   -17  +3.0
T. Gibson        F 18:22  2-6   0-0   0-0   2  7  1  2  0  0  1   4    -5  +6.0
B. Miller          30:34  4-8   0-2   7-9   2  5  4  1  2  0  2  15    -8 +19.0
K. Hinrich         25:53  3-4   2-2   0-0   1  4  4  1  1  0  3   8   -20 +15.0
J. Johnson         10:17  3-5   0-1   2-2   0  0  0  0  0  0  1   8    +3  +6.0
J. Pargo            7:15  1-4   0-2   0-0   0  2  1  2  0  0  1   2    +2  +0.0
L. Hunter           4:34  0-1   0-1   0-0   0  2  1  0  0  0  0   0    +5  +2.0
A. Gray             DNP - Coach's Decision
T. Thomas           DNP - Coach's Decision
Totals                   38-84  5-15 12-17 10 44 24 15  9  2 19  93
Percentages:             .452  .333  .706  Team Rebounds: 2

LA Lakers
PLAYER         POS  MIN  FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS   +/-  EFF
K. Bryant        G 37:47  7-21  0-2   7-8   1  9  8  1  0  1  3  21   +17 +23.0
D. Fisher        G 26:23  5-5   2-2   0-0   0  2  2  1  1  0  3  12   +14 +16.0
A. Bynum         C 24:16  5-12  0-0   1-2   2  8  0  2  0  1  4  11    +9 +10.0
P. Gasol         F 35:10  9-15  0-0   6-6   7 13  3  2  0  1  3  24   +11 +33.0
R. Artest        F 34:17  6-13  2-4   1-1   4  5  3  1  3  0  0  15   +19 +18.0
L. Odom            25:51  4-7   2-4   1-2   0  8  2  3  0  0  1  11   +20 +14.0
J. Farmar          19:51  3-8   0-2   2-3   0  1  2  2  3  0  1   8    -1  +6.0
S. Brown           16:34  1-3   0-2   0-0   0  1  0  0  1  0  1   2    +6  +2.0
J. Powell           6:09  0-1   0-0   0-0   0  0  0  0  0  1  0   0    -5  +0.0
D. Mbenga           4:34  1-2   0-0   0-0   0  1  0  0  0  0  1   2    -5  +2.0
A. Morrison         4:34  1-2   0-0   0-0   0  3  0  0  0  0  0   2    -5  +4.0
S. Vujacic          4:34  0-3   0-3   0-0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0   0    -5  -3.0
Totals                   42-92  6-19 18-22 14 51 20 12  8  4 17 108
Percentages:             .457  .316  .818  Team Rebounds: 8

Technical Fouls:
None
Arena: Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA

EFF calculated locally:
EFF = ((pts + reb + ast + stl + blk) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + tos))

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Recap from http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2009111913

Gasol scores 24 in debut, Lakers top Bulls 108-93
By GREG BEACHAM, AP Sports Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Pau Gasol had 24 points and 13 rebounds in his season
debut, and Kobe Bryant scored 21 points while passing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
on the Lakers’ career scoring chart in Los Angeles’ 108-93 victory over the
Chicago Bulls on Thursday night.

Ron Artest added 15 points for the Lakers, who finally had their full
starting lineup intact for their ninth victory in 12 games to start the
season. The defending NBA champions had little trouble with the Bulls,
opening a 20-point lead in the third quarter before beating them for the
eighth time in nine meetings.

Derrick Rose scored 20 points and John Salmons scored all 18 of his points
in the first half for the Bulls, who lost on the second stop of a taxing
six-game road trip.

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Game flow URL: http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20091119&game...
Play-by-play from http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/gamelog?gameId=291119013

Start of the 1st Quarter
Jumpball: Joakim Noah vs. Andrew Bynum (John Salmons gains possession) 0-0    12:00
Taj Gibson misses jumper 0-0    11:48
        11:47   0-0 Andrew Bynum defensive rebound
        11:37   0-0 Andrew Bynum misses layup
        11:36   0-2 Pau Gasol makes tip shot
        11:36   0-2 Pau Gasol offensive rebound
Derrick Rose misses 16-foot jumper 0-2    11:21
        11:19   0-2 Andrew Bynum defensive rebound
        11:12   0-2 Derek Fisher lost ball (Joakim Noah steals)
John Salmons misses 18-foot jumper 0-2    11:00
        11:00   0-2 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound
Luol Deng personal foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul) 0-2    10:53
Taj Gibson shooting foul (Pau Gasol draws the foul) 0-2    10:41
        10:41   0-3
...

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From: "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:24:07 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 6:24 am
Subject: Re: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP

> Congrats to mayner for closest predict.

> CHI at LAL: Thu Nov 19 19:30:00 2009 (Run at: Thu Nov 19 22:19:28 2009)

>   NAME                    POST TIME      LAL   OPP   DIFF     VEC

> Actual score:                            108    93    15

> Qualified:
>   mayner                  18/16:31:02    110    96    14     3.606
>   $Bill                   19/19:34:19    105    95    10     3.606

Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:26:49 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP
On Nov 19, 10:24 pm, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote:

> > Congrats to mayner for closest predict.

> > CHI at LAL: Thu Nov 19 19:30:00 2009 (Run at: Thu Nov 19 22:19:28 2009)

> > NAME POST TIME LAL OPP DIFF VEC

> > Actual score: 108 93 15

> > Qualified:
> > mayner 18/16:31:02 110 96 14 3.606
> > $Bill 19/19:34:19 105 95 10 3.606

> Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

damn, Sacha cost me with those missed threes.

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Date: 20 Nov 2009 08:52:00 +0100
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"$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in news:he5cm7$ab$2@news.eternal-
september.org:

> Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

aging is a bad thing ;)

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:11:54 -0800
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:24:07 -0800, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
wrote:

>> Congrats to mayner for closest predict.

>> CHI at LAL: Thu Nov 19 19:30:00 2009 (Run at: Thu Nov 19 22:19:28 2009)

>>   NAME                    POST TIME      LAL   OPP   DIFF     VEC

>> Actual score:                            108    93    15

>> Qualified:
>>   mayner                  18/16:31:02    110    96    14     3.606
>>   $Bill                   19/19:34:19    105    95    10     3.606

>Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

Feh...

We all know who the winner is. Don't even try.   ;-)


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What happened to the online predicts?  Fell off the face of the earth I
guess.

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Sac D wrote:

> What happened to the online predicts?  Fell off the face of the earth I
> guess.

Should be available now, but some of the scripts are failing on the new
server (not the predict one though). Will iron it all out eventually.
In the mean time, I can replicate the website on my PC except I
introduced an error there too which needs to be sussed out.

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Ammammata wrote:
> "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in news:he5cm7$ab$2@news.eternal-
> september.org:

>> Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

> aging is a bad thing ;)

Memory is the first thing to go.  And the second is...uhhh...

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From: "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:04:08 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP

Gary Collard wrote:
> Ammammata wrote:
>> "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in news:he5cm7$ab$2@news.eternal-
>> september.org:

>>> Did it again - didn't even realize I tied for 1st. :(

>> aging is a bad thing ;)

> Memory is the first thing to go.  And the second is...uhhh...

2nd thing to go is Still working.  ;)

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From: "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:04:55 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP

$Bill wrote:
> Sac D wrote:

>> What happened to the online predicts?  Fell off the face of the earth
>> I guess.

> Should be available now, but some of the scripts are failing on the new
> server (not the predict one though). Will iron it all out eventually.
> In the mean time, I can replicate the website on my PC except I
> introduced an error there too which needs to be sussed out.

OK, got the totals done locally after getting the perms fixed:

Current prediction contest standings:
                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  andy                  5      0      2       0      0     6    8.097 yes
  frndthdevl           11      3      1       1      2    17   15.216 yes
  ARW                  11      1      0       1      3     3   16.187 yes
  RMJon23              10      0      1       0      3     0   16.865 yes
  Sean S               10      0      1       1      2     2   17.164 yes
  Lallia               10      0      0       2      2     0   17.387 yes
  Gary Collard          8      2      0       0      2     8   17.691 yes
  Swillabrew            8      1      0       0      3     2   18.337 yes
  mayner                7      2      0       0      1     9   20.076 yes
  $Bill                10      1      1       3      3     8   20.095 yes
  Sac D                 7      0      0       0      2    -2   21.430 yes
  Terraholm            12      2      0       1      5     6   22.663 yes
  Kai Haberzettl        7      0      1       0      3     0   27.692 yes
  Ammammata            12      0      0       2      3    -1   29.723 yes
                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  frndthdevl           11      3      1       1      2    17   15.216 yes
  mayner                7      2      0       0      1     9   20.076 yes
  Gary Collard          8      2      0       0      2     8   17.691 yes
  $Bill                10      1      1       3      3     8   20.095 yes
  andy                  5      0      2       0      0     6    8.097 yes
  Terraholm            12      2      0       1      5     6   22.663 yes
  ARW                  11      1      0       1      3     3   16.187 yes
  Sean S               10      0      1       1      2     2   17.164 yes
  Swillabrew            8      1      0       0      3     2   18.337 yes
  RMJon23              10      0      1       0      3     0   16.865 yes
  Lallia               10      0      0       2      2     0   17.387 yes
  Kai Haberzettl        7      0      1       0      3     0   27.692 yes
  Ammammata            12      0      0       2      3    -1   29.723 yes
  Sac D                 7      0      0       0      2    -2   21.430 yes
                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Heywood Jablome       1      0      0       0      0     0    5.000 no
  dduubb                1      0      0       0      0     0    5.385 no
  zcarenow              1      0      0       0      0     0   21.954 no
  Silk_Wilkes           1      0      0       0      1    -1   23.409 no
  iceberg               1      0      0       0      1    -1   56.886 no


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 11:13 pm
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From: "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:13:24 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: Prediction results 1119 CHI - Game 12 plus Qstats/Box/Recap/PBP

$Bill wrote:

> OK, got the totals done locally after getting the perms fixed:

OK, got the online fixed and found andy in there for 2nd place (pretty hot
on the vecage this year) :

CHI at LAL: Thu Nov 19 19:30:00 2009

   NAME                  POST TIME      LAL   OPP   DIFF    VEC    FROM

   Actual Score                         108    93    15

Qualified:
   mayner                18/16:31:02    110    96    14     3.606  Usenet
   $Bill                 19/19:34:19    105    95    10     3.606  Usenet
   andy                  19/16:44:36    104    93    11     4.000  Online
   Lallia                18/21:22:39    109    98    11     5.099  Usenet
   Sean S                19/16:07:01    103    94     9     5.099  Usenet
   ARW                   19/17:23:32    106    98     8     5.385  Usenet
   Terraholm             19/15:13:22    108    99     9     6.000  Usenet
   RMJon23               19/15:21:03    103    97     6     6.403  Usenet
   Gary Collard          19/11:03:11    100    91     9     8.246  Usenet
   frndthdevl            19/16:26:20    111   101    10     8.544  Usenet
   Sac D                 19/16:43:08    111   103     8    10.440  Online
   Ammammata             19/00:08:56    123   108    15    21.213  Usenet

YTD standings:
                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  andy                  6      0      2       1      0     7    7.415 yes
  frndthdevl           11      3      1       1      2    17   15.216 yes
  ARW                  11      1      0       1      3     3   16.187 yes
  RMJon23              10      0      1       0      3     0   16.865 yes
  Sean S               10      0      1       0      2     1   17.164 yes
  Lallia               10      0      0       1      2    -1   17.387 yes
  Gary Collard          8      2      0       0      2     8   17.691 yes
  Swillabrew            8      1      0       0      3     2   18.337 yes
  Sac D                 8      0      0       0      2    -2   20.056 yes
  mayner                7      2      0       0      1     9   20.076 yes
  $Bill                10      1      1       3      3     8   20.095 yes
  Terraholm            12      2      0       1      5     6   22.663 yes
  Kai Haberzettl        7      0      1       0      3     0   27.692 yes
  Ammammata            12      0      0       2      3    -1   29.723 yes

                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  frndthdevl           11      3      1       1      2    17   15.216 yes
  mayner                7      2      0       0      1     9   20.076 yes
  Gary Collard          8      2      0       0      2     8   17.691 yes
  $Bill                10      1      1       3      3     8   20.095 yes
  andy                  6      0      2       1      0     7    7.415 yes
  Terraholm            12      2      0       1      5     6   22.663 yes
  ARW                  11      1      0       1      3     3   16.187 yes
  Swillabrew            8      1      0       0      3     2   18.337 yes
  Sean S               10      0      1       0      2     1   17.164 yes
  RMJon23              10      0      1       0      3     0   16.865 yes
  Kai Haberzettl        7      0      1       0      3     0   27.692 yes
  Lallia               10      0      0       1      2    -1   17.387 yes
  Ammammata            12      0      0       2      3    -1   29.723 yes
  Sac D                 8      0      0       0      2    -2   20.056 yes

                                                       Usenet Vec
Predictor            Tries  Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score  Avg    Member
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Heywood Jablome       1      0      0       0      0     0    5.000 no
  dduubb                1      0      0       0      0     0    5.385 no
  zcarenow              1      0      0       0      0     0   21.954 no
  Silk_Wilkes           1      0      0       0      1    -1   23.409 no
  iceberg               1      0      0       0      1    -1   56.886 no


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