I'm actually becoming concerned in regards to the mental health of the nation's conservatives. I knew they'd blow a gasket if a black man became President, but this is downright scary shit. I know it's (sorta) being sold as "satire"...I think the Secret Service needs to look into this.
Oh yeah...found this link front and center on Drudge. What an asshole.
BaSSiStiSt wrote: > Hey, I never called Bush a coup leader...he wasn't smart enough to > lead. :-)
> Cheney was the coup leader.
"I speak of these New American Century men who have taken our beloved country and all it stands for it and thrown it down into the mud. You will note that I did not name George W. Bush, for blaming Bush for the gross misadministration of this government is like blaming Mickey Mouse when Disney screws up." William Rivers Pitt
BaSSiStiSt wrote: > Hey, I never called Bush a coup leader...he wasn't smart enough to
> lead. :-)
> Cheney was the coup leader.
¶You got that right. Here is my personal pretty much bottom line take on George W. Bush's personality problems: »»»
¶ Although there is no disputing that George W. Bush - whatever his raw intelligence - is intellectually shallow, cognitively dull, and not nearly as well-educated as could reasonably be expected in a man with his opportunities for education, I think his main failings - throughout his life as well as in the White House years - were his indifference toward, avoidance of, and often disabling aversion to, responsibility; his at times seriously disabling narcissistic personality disorder (and its concomitant feelings of insecurity, chronic anxiety, and compulsive behavior); his often gross self-indulgence; and just plain laziness. »»»
¶ He did not like being president, he liked only the idea of being president while hating the smothering pressure and onerous job of having to perform the formidable duties of that incredibly demanding office. He wanted only the fun and prestige of it, the pomp and ceremony, but not the hard work in it - a feature that was prominent in nearly all his professional activities, from his academic mediocrity as he played the classic frat boy role while dancing and drinking his way through college, through his neglected war-avoidance military service when he showed up when it suited him, through the several businesses (and the Texas governorship) he was given by his father and his father's friends and failed at or let others run for him, to his greatest failure: the presidency his father and his father's friends secured for him. »»»
¶ Early in his presidency, I despised George W. Bush. I was repulsed by his blustering bullying braggadocio, his obvious personality problems, his mental laziness, and his penchant for long vacations when things got especially tough. But by the time he left office, in fact well before that, I came to have one and only one reaction to him: I just felt sorry for the pitiful bastard, and nothing more; and pity is a far more belittling condemnation than contempt. Ø
On Nov 19, 6:40 pm, Johnny <apte...@cox.net> wrote:
> ¶ He did not like being president, he liked only the idea of being > president while hating the smothering pressure and onerous job of having > to perform the formidable duties of that incredibly demanding office.
True statement, but, to be fair, the current occupant ain't exactly rising to the challenge either.
And honestly I think that Sarah would run screaming about 5 minutes into January 21st. And she knows this, so I think this "run" is purely a book sale/fund raising tour, with the end product in mind being lucrative membership in some conservative "think tank" (snicker) down the road.
> But by the time he left office, in fact well before that, I came to have one and only one reaction to him: I > just felt sorry for the pitiful bastard, and nothing more; and pity is a far more belittling condemnation than contempt.
Same. I think he thought the job would be some country club lark (Daddy did it!) but his turn coincided with the world (and Wall Street) turning a lot meaner. After September 11th, I think he honestly tossed the keys to Cheney and said "Let me know when I need to get ready for speeches".
BaSSiStiSt wrote: > On Nov 19, 6:40 pm, Johnny wrote:
>> ¶ He did not like being president, he liked only the idea of being >> president while hating the smothering pressure and onerous job of having >> to perform the formidable duties of that incredibly demanding office.
> True statement, but, to be fair, the current occupant ain't exactly > rising to the challenge either.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Johnny responds:
¶ The opinions I expressed did not address or make comparisons with other presidents, but I will give you the courtesy of a reply to the matter you raise. »»»
¶ To be fair, I have not yet begun to form opinions firm enough to warrant expressing about a president who will have been in office only 10 months as of tomorrow and does not yet appear to me to have seriously screwed up, with the possible exception, so far, of probably surrounding himself with too many Neoliberals, particularly incompetents, such as Larry Summers, and the Wall Street tainted if not corrupted, such as Timothy Geithner. »»»
¶ I can understand why many true Liberals and especially Progressives are impatient for early, rapid, and salient accomplishments after 8 years of Bush Neoconservative hell following 8 years of Clinton Neoliberal purgatory preceded by 12 years of the ever-darkening path of Supply-side Reagonomics with its skyrocketing budget deficits and public debt to fund Cold War saber rattling, deregulated Capitalism, class and culture warfare, trade union busting, and General Welfare bashing. »»»
¶ I can understand why the far Right Wing Regressive Looney Tune Fascists (*/_See_/* note [1] for the correct definition of this often misused term) claim that Barack is already an utter, dismal, and irretrievable failure whose dangerous nefarious secret schemes to _[fill in whatever makes them paranoid at any given time]_ have been exposed and therefore cannot succeed now that the guardians of the One and Only True God, the Grand Old Flag, and the Good Old American Way are onto him. After all, they are having a very difficult time trying to crawl out of the rotting ruins and rancid rubble of a Republican Party and Conservative Movement grievously injured and nearly destroyed by the Bush/Cheney debacle while being sick to their stomachs that a *GASP* Black Man dwells in the White House. »»»
¶ I can understand why the far Left Wing Radical Fruitcake denizens of the various branches of the tree of Marxism are intractably contemptuous of Barack. It isn't personal or even specific to Barack with them, they are simply uncompromisingly dedicated to the overthrow of Capitalism anywhere and everywhere in the world and determined to replace it with whichever Utopian version of Communism their particular branch of Marxism leads them to. »»»
¶ I can understand why the above-identified groups have cast careful consideration aside and precipitately and prematurely prejudged both the man and his performance with undue and unbecoming haste and ill-advised impatience. But I plan to wait until I see enough evidence of a pattern of behavior to enable me (in the words apocryphally but fittingly attributed to John Paul Jones) "to distinguish error from malice, thoughtlessness from incompetence, and well-meant shortcoming from heedless or stupid blunder" and in the meantime to strive to be "the soul of tact, patience, justice, and firmness" in my continuing appraisal and ultimate judgment of the man and his performance. »»»
NOTES:
[1] fascism |?fa sh ?iz?m| (also Fascism) noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. . (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice. The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922--43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> And honestly I think that Sarah would run screaming about 5 minutes > into January 21st. And she knows this, so I think this "run" is purely > a book sale/fund raising tour, with the end product in mind being > lucrative membership in some conservative "think tank" (snicker) down > the road.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ¶ Yep, the only place Palin is running to is the bank. »»» ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> But by the time he left office, in fact well before that, I came to have one and only one reaction to him: I just felt sorry for the pitiful bastard, and nothing more; and pity is a far more belittling condemnation than contempt.
> Same. I think he thought the job would be some country club lark > (Daddy did it!) but his turn coincided with the world (and Wall > Street) turning a lot meaner. After September 11th, I think he > honestly tossed the keys to Cheney and said "Let me know when I need > to get ready for speeches".
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ¶ Yep, he was in way over his head, as usual, but this time he was in real danger of drowning despite any personal flotation devices his father and his father's friends had always thrown to him. Ø
8-) johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, I haven't written Barack off either, but I've been very disappointed that he's not marshalled the Democratic Congress and used the leverage we voted for him. He made a token effort to include the Repubs, good for him, but they are obviously still pissed over Chimpy's (deserved) treatment (hell, they're probably still mad about Bill Clinton...mad is what they do) so F them. He needs to take the reins and ride hard over them...but instead he (and his party) seem caught in a fog of malaise, and seem determined to give the Congressional majority back to the right. I honestly hope he pulls himself out of it and finds his dick again, but the Dems are pretty legendary for pussing out when given the chance to shine.
BaSSiStiSt wrote: > Yeah, I haven't written Barack off either, but I've been very > disappointed that he's not marshalled the Democratic Congress and used > the leverage we voted for him. He made a token effort to include the > Repubs, good for him, but they are obviously still pissed over > Chimpy's (deserved) treatment (hell, they're probably still mad about > Bill Clinton...mad is what they do) so F them. He needs to take the > reins and ride hard over them...but instead he (and his party) seem > caught in a fog of malaise, and seem determined to give the > Congressional majority back to the right. I honestly hope he pulls > himself out of it and finds his dick again, but the Dems are pretty > legendary for pussing out when given the chance to shine.
> That, and he needs to run Geithner out on a rail.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ¶ I hear you on all counts. Something that troubles me is how many so-called independents, who have shown up so numerous in recent polls that many of them have to be moderate Republicans who soured on the Party, are drifting back to the Republican side in the polls. I take the incorrectable ignorance of the Looney Tunes for granted, but I had higher hopes for the independents and moderates after the Bush/Cheney fiasco and Barack's ability to fire up the youth vote. Fucking casual voters don't know what they want from one election to the next. »»»
¶ Ditto on Geithner, and Larry Summers has to go, too. Summers was so fucked up when he was prez of Harvard that the faculty finally revolted and drove him out. Ø
8-) johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BaSSiStiSt wrote: > > Yeah, I haven't written Barack off either, but I've been very > > disappointed that he's not marshalled the Democratic Congress and used > > the leverage we voted for him. He made a token effort to include the > > Repubs, good for him, but they are obviously still pissed over > > Chimpy's (deserved) treatment (hell, they're probably still mad about > > Bill Clinton...mad is what they do) so F them. He needs to take the > > reins and ride hard over them...but instead he (and his party) seem > > caught in a fog of malaise, and seem determined to give the > > Congressional majority back to the right. I honestly hope he pulls > > himself out of it and finds his dick again, but the Dems are pretty > > legendary for pussing out when given the chance to shine.
> > That, and he needs to run Geithner out on a rail.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ¶ I hear you on all counts. Something that troubles me is how many > so-called independents, who have shown up so numerous in recent polls > that many of them have to be moderate Republicans who soured on the > Party, are drifting back to the Republican side in the polls. I take > the incorrectable ignorance of the Looney Tunes for granted, but I had > higher hopes for the independents and moderates after the Bush/Cheney > fiasco and Barack's ability to fire up the youth vote. Fucking casual > voters don't know what they want from one election to the next. »»»
> ¶ Ditto on Geithner, and Larry Summers has to go, too. Summers was > so fucked up when he was prez of Harvard that the faculty finally > revolted and drove him out. Ø
> 8-) johnny > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Independent = "Dumbass". They're trend followers. Republicans suck? WE WANT OBAMA! Obama not getting it done? BRING ON THE REPUBLICANS!
I swear, you could be elected President tomorrow if you promised everyone a free Hershey bar. People bitch about the government, yet demand so little AND refuse to pay attention.
As I've said before, I sometimes think we DESERVE Sarah in 2012...but we probably still wouldn't learn from it.
BaSSiStiSt wrote: > On Nov 20, 12:29 pm, Johnny <apte...@cox.net> wrote:
>> BaSSiStiSt wrote:
>>> Yeah, I haven't written Barack off either, but I've been very >>> disappointed that he's not marshalled the Democratic Congress and used >>> the leverage we voted for him. He made a token effort to include the >>> Repubs, good for him, but they are obviously still pissed over >>> Chimpy's (deserved) treatment (hell, they're probably still mad about >>> Bill Clinton...mad is what they do) so F them. He needs to take the >>> reins and ride hard over them...but instead he (and his party) seem >>> caught in a fog of malaise, and seem determined to give the >>> Congressional majority back to the right. I honestly hope he pulls >>> himself out of it and finds his dick again, but the Dems are pretty >>> legendary for pussing out when given the chance to shine.
>>> That, and he needs to run Geithner out on a rail.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ¶ I hear you on all counts. Something that troubles me is how many >> so-called independents, who have shown up so numerous in recent polls >> that many of them have to be moderate Republicans who soured on the >> Party, are drifting back to the Republican side in the polls. I take >> the incorrectable ignorance of the Looney Tunes for granted, but I had >> higher hopes for the independents and moderates after the Bush/Cheney >> fiasco and Barack's ability to fire up the youth vote. Fucking casual >> voters don't know what they want from one election to the next. »»»
>> ¶ Ditto on Geithner, and Larry Summers has to go, too. Summers was >> so fucked up when he was prez of Harvard that the faculty finally >> revolted and drove him out. Ø
>> 8-) johnny >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Independent = "Dumbass". They're trend followers. Republicans suck? WE > WANT OBAMA! Obama not getting it done? BRING ON THE REPUBLICANS!
> I swear, you could be elected President tomorrow if you promised > everyone a free Hershey bar. People bitch about the government, yet > demand so little AND refuse to pay attention.
> As I've said before, I sometimes think we DESERVE Sarah in 2012...but > we probably still wouldn't learn from it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ¶ That has occurred to me, too, and it's downright depressing to think that the sleepwalkers among us need an even harsher lesson before they wake up to the fact that they are walking into a hole with no bottom. The depressing part is that they are pulling the rest of us down with them as we try to wake them up. Ø :-( johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Nov 19, 2:50 pm, BaSSiStiSt <bassistist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, I never called Bush a coup leader...he wasn't smart enough to > lead. :-)
> Cheney was the coup leader.
as usual a bunch of posters blow kkkollard out of the water and zero response from him... what an ass... im surprised his kkkooky ass wasnt crying about getting stuck out in the rain and not getting palin to sign his book...
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